I think... that it's still the right thing. Your motives haven't changed. You're still striving for the same goals, and those goals are really admirable -- to protect everyone, without sacrificing yourselves.
[stares down into his cup of tea, carefully selecting his words.]
I don't know if withholding revivals from an entire unit was ever a good idea. I do't mean that as... criticism, necessarily, just that, well, there really weren't any good options, period. So it was worth a shot, but it definitely made people upset and uncomfortable. And since it looks like it might do the same for you guys, it makes sense to get rid of it.
Like you said, you're not the police. It's not your responsibility to keep people from murdering each other. It's really admirable that you do feel like you should be doing something, and I think that shows that you're all good people, but it's... it's ultimately not something you can prevent. I think if people really, really want to commit a murder, even enforcing the original policy wouldn't necessarily stop them. Maybe we can find options to discourage murder that don't put pressure on pep!pep! because they're not tied to revival...?
Admittedly, we were pretty upset when we made the first policy. It felt imperative to make our feelings on it as clear as possible before anything else had a chance to happen, because the first and second revivals that Pink did were only four days apart. And nobody we showed to policy to in advance seemed to have any immediate concerns, either, so we just ran with it.
I feel bad about it now, though.
And I'd definitely be open to other options. I'm sure the rest of my unit would, too. Because, like, we all kinda hate this.
We were all pretty shocked by what had happened, I think. It was a lot to deal with.
And... ugh, this is the part I hate, too. No matter how honest you are, there are people are going to be terrible about it. It's not fair that you got accused of extortion and making displays of power or whatever crap people were saying, but it happened.
I think the best way to deal with that is just for everyone to get to know pep!pep! better in general. Which I think maybe has started happening already? So... just be open about what your intentions are with revising the policy and the fact that you want other people to weigh in and I think it'll mostly be okay.
It really was a lot. pep!pep! was like a bunch of angry bees.
Most of the people in our unit are really outgoing, and have been since the beginning. That part hasn't changed. And we tried to make it clear during live that we were open to community input if anyone had any thoughts. We really are trying to be as open as possible, so we'll definitely keep doing that.
Do you think asking murderers to pay a fee if pep!pep! winds up reviving their victim is okay, or is that still bad?
So far, nobody has ever once charged anyone for a revival, even with the policy, and we would keep the rule where each person gets to choose the price they feel comfortable with, whether it's the fee we announced or nothing. Kind of like how sensitIV theoretically charges for healing, but each person decides for themself whether to do it or not.
I know you've tried to be open, and personally I think you've done a good job of it.
And I don't think asking the murderers to pay a fee is bad. It sounds good on paper, plus you know ahead of time that it's going to be hard to enforce.
I mean, to be clear, the idea is that if a person does a murder and doesn't pay the fee, we might not revive them in the future if they die. But that would only happen if, say, the person doing the revival asked for a fee in the first place, or if nobody else paid for them or something. Honestly, none of us want it to be difficult to revive people, but we do want to make murder at least sort of annoying and this is all we've got to work with.
Here. Take a look at the revisions and let me know if anything stands out to you?
[The notebook is already in the pillow fort because he was reviewing it before texting Anubis, so he'll hand him the revised policy.]
Everyone who already supported you will continue to, and I think it'll be a relief for those who were concerned about the old policy. I'm... not really sure I can predict some of my unit's reactions anymore, though.
I talked to everyone who was at the game afterwards, because I wanted them to tell me their-- why they thought what they did was necessary. Santa-san immediately assumed I was going to blame her for everything and Loki-san said I wouldn't understand. Lucifel-san was the only one who didn't brush me off, and that's because he. He thinks that everyone needs a target to take their frustrations out on, and he's decided that it should be him? So he wants to "become a villain"?
[said in a kind of disbelieving tone.]
Nya-san killed himself while everything was going on to meet Lilith, and expected none of us to notice he was missing or care. In the game before the last one, Hera-san tried to threaten someone by saying that she'd get all of sensitIV to withhold healing.
To... a certain extent, I think? At least, we talked, and I think maybe we both understand each other a little better.
... it really hurt, though. It still hurts. I feel like I'm always scrambling to try and keep my unit from crumbling apart, but... maybe I'm the problem, because the people who've been with me the longest obviously aren't... comfortable with me? And the new ones don't believe I care.
...I'm not going to say that I understand what you're dealing with, because I've met most of the people in your unit somewhere between one and zero times each, so I honestly have no idea what kind of people they are.
But...everyone is different. If they can't tell that you care, it may be because they see the world from a very different perspective and don't know what they're looking at. I don't think that represents a failure on your part, though. It might just be a difference of personalities and views. Some people are harder to reach than others, but that doesn't mean it's not worth trying, and I don't think caring about them is wrong, even if you don't understand each other.
I think reaching out to people and trying to help and understand them is one of the best things anyone can do for each other in this place, and you are genuinely one of the kindest and most compassionate people I've met. For what it's worth, I think anyone would be lucky to have you on their unit, Anubis. I'm glad you are who you are.
I mean it. You're a really good person, Anubis. And if ever you're not confident about that fact, I'll just keep reminding you until you get so annoyed with me that you have to send Nine-Nine after me to beat me up.
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[stares down into his cup of tea, carefully selecting his words.]
I don't know if withholding revivals from an entire unit was ever a good idea. I do't mean that as... criticism, necessarily, just that, well, there really weren't any good options, period. So it was worth a shot, but it definitely made people upset and uncomfortable. And since it looks like it might do the same for you guys, it makes sense to get rid of it.
Like you said, you're not the police. It's not your responsibility to keep people from murdering each other. It's really admirable that you do feel like you should be doing something, and I think that shows that you're all good people, but it's... it's ultimately not something you can prevent. I think if people really, really want to commit a murder, even enforcing the original policy wouldn't necessarily stop them. Maybe we can find options to discourage murder that don't put pressure on pep!pep! because they're not tied to revival...?
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I feel bad about it now, though.
And I'd definitely be open to other options. I'm sure the rest of my unit would, too. Because, like, we all kinda hate this.
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And... ugh, this is the part I hate, too. No matter how honest you are, there are people are going to be terrible about it. It's not fair that you got accused of extortion and making displays of power or whatever crap people were saying, but it happened.
I think the best way to deal with that is just for everyone to get to know pep!pep! better in general. Which I think maybe has started happening already? So... just be open about what your intentions are with revising the policy and the fact that you want other people to weigh in and I think it'll mostly be okay.
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Most of the people in our unit are really outgoing, and have been since the beginning. That part hasn't changed. And we tried to make it clear during live that we were open to community input if anyone had any thoughts. We really are trying to be as open as possible, so we'll definitely keep doing that.
Do you think asking murderers to pay a fee if pep!pep! winds up reviving their victim is okay, or is that still bad?
So far, nobody has ever once charged anyone for a revival, even with the policy, and we would keep the rule where each person gets to choose the price they feel comfortable with, whether it's the fee we announced or nothing. Kind of like how sensitIV theoretically charges for healing, but each person decides for themself whether to do it or not.
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I know you've tried to be open, and personally I think you've done a good job of it.
And I don't think asking the murderers to pay a fee is bad. It sounds good on paper, plus you know ahead of time that it's going to be hard to enforce.
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Here. Take a look at the revisions and let me know if anything stands out to you?
[The notebook is already in the pillow fort because he was reviewing it before texting Anubis, so he'll hand him the revised policy.]
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[shrugs. how to discourage murder when it seems obvious murder should be wrong?? we just don't know.
he takes the notebook and carefully looks it over.]
... I don't see anything that makes me hesitate. Hopefully this version will be a lot easier on you.
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Thank you, seriously.
Do you think the rest of sensitIV would be okay with this change?
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I heard about the last game. Are you guys doing alright?
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... not really.
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...If you feel like talking about it. And it's okay if you don't.
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What's the status?
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[said in a kind of disbelieving tone.]
Nya-san killed himself while everything was going on to meet Lilith, and expected none of us to notice he was missing or care. In the game before the last one, Hera-san tried to threaten someone by saying that she'd get all of sensitIV to withhold healing.
So. Um. Things aren't great.
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Goodness!!
OK WE'LL GET TO ALL OF IT BUT RIGHT NOW HE HAS TO PICK SOMETHING TO REACT TO FIRST, SO ONE THING AT A TIME]
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He died on purpose. Lilith revived him... something like three days later.
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S...so people can get revived on their own after all...! Thank goodness!
But... oh man. Is Nya okay? Are you okay??
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Were you able to talk things out with him?
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... it really hurt, though. It still hurts. I feel like I'm always scrambling to try and keep my unit from crumbling apart, but... maybe I'm the problem, because the people who've been with me the longest obviously aren't... comfortable with me? And the new ones don't believe I care.
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...I'm not going to say that I understand what you're dealing with, because I've met most of the people in your unit somewhere between one and zero times each, so I honestly have no idea what kind of people they are.
But...everyone is different. If they can't tell that you care, it may be because they see the world from a very different perspective and don't know what they're looking at. I don't think that represents a failure on your part, though. It might just be a difference of personalities and views. Some people are harder to reach than others, but that doesn't mean it's not worth trying, and I don't think caring about them is wrong, even if you don't understand each other.
I think reaching out to people and trying to help and understand them is one of the best things anyone can do for each other in this place, and you are genuinely one of the kindest and most compassionate people I've met. For what it's worth, I think anyone would be lucky to have you on their unit, Anubis. I'm glad you are who you are.
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... thank you, Cobalt-san. I... really, thank you. That's really kind of you to say.
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